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shapukas
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PostPosted: 2005-06-02 15:00 
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jonas wrote:

su trebucetu tas pats kas su apgulties bokstu - pagal dauguma taisykliu trebcetas ir katapulta yra tokie "nezymus" apgulties metu padaromoje zaloje piliai, kad jo naudoti visai neapsimoka, be to ir vel figuruoja finansine skrandzio opa.

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Nu tu cia nusisnekejai. Katapultos, o ypac trbuchetai buvo patys pagrindiniai piliu apgulties mechanizmai, is toli sugriaunantys sienas ar vartus. Trebuchetas is vis nerealus daiktas. Pakankamai paprasta konstrukcija. Be apgulties masinu piliu isvis neimanoma butu uzimt. Nebent pilies ginyba visiskai nesubalansuota. Paziurekit Troja. Jei graikai but tureje bent viena trebucheta tai Trojai ta pacia diena sakiai butu. :lol:
Reiks pabandyt sia vasara sukonstruot trebucheta.

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LARPAS-ne ralybe.
kas realybeje pravercia tas nevisalaika ir larpe tinka.

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Gal ir netinka (su sieno kuliais bokstu tikrai nenugriausi :lol: ) bet manau kad larpe turi buti kuo realiau atvaizduojamas gyvenimas, ekonomika, kovos, apgultys ir t.t.

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mirazas wrote:
..., ekonomika, kovos, apgultys ir t.t.

Tai ar nesinoretu per apgulti turet ir trebucheta? Tarkim galima butu i pili patekt tik sugriovus tam skirta sienos dali (aisku ji neturetu but labai stipri). Cia gautusi taspats kaip ir pazymetos vietos per kurias galima perlipti siena.

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>As kalbejau apie viduramziu karyba

o Jonas kalbejo apie LARPa

specialiai Shapukui - kol kas musu larpe karo masinos yra mirtinos tik tiems kas jas naudoja.
o kirvis labai nepraktiskas ginklas isskyrus LARPG "Japonija" kur nepraleidziami tiesus kalavijai
kuo sunkiau realybeje pramusami tavo sarvai, tuo lengviau iveikiamas karys juos devintis

shapuk, larpas yra zaidimas o ne gyvenimas, zaidimo taisykles visokios buna :)
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sienos nebus pazymetos cia buvo klaida :)

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Tai as ir neteigiu kad butinai naudot apgulties masinas, o tik tokia minti daviau. Na tokia mintis is musu gincu kilo :)

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tik su tom apgulties masinom, pilis turetu stowet lygiame lauke, o daznai taip nebuna..

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Shiandien grizau is festivalio Lenkijoje. Ten buvo suorganizuotas vartu sturmas. Visam reikalui buvo naudojamas vienas taranas. To uztenka, nes vos tik vartai pralauziami jis tampa nebenaudingas. Dar vienas daiktas gal ne i tema, bet labai svarbus buvo naudojami metaliniai ginklai, bet nemazai zmoniu ejo be sharvu, pora net pusnuogiu. Visi turejo salmus, nes smugiai galvon buvo leidziami. Nepatikesit, bet nebuvo ne vienos traumos, net didesnio nubrozdinimo.

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teko ziureti Cesio filmuota medziaga
hiebra vienas kita kuteno kalavijais, kuteno tiesiogine to zodzio prasme, nes pliku musti ir man nesinoretu :)
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